Are you remembering

[taiarain]

To test your site in various browsers? It used to be just IE and Netscape. Are you optimizing for the newer browsers now?

Taia

[Pamil Visions]

I develop all websites for all the browsers. people do use different browsers to surf the web. Who am I to tell them "best viewed with IE" or "best viewed with mozilla firefox". I mean hey: we have to create user friendly sites. 

[taiarain]

I remember the days when we optimized for IE or Netscape and included a message like that on the site. In fact, that's what prompted this reminder. A younger site with such a message.

Taia

[Pamil Visions]

yes, I still see a lot of theese, especially flash sites.
for example: to view this site you need macromedia flash!
I mean: please! if they are up to make a flash site for the fun of it, why not also a pure html version to improve my user experience and not make me waste my time?

[taiarain]

You mean design a user-friendly website? How quaint. LOL

Taia

[Pamil Visions]

Yeah, right... LOL!

But you know, although I do like Flash (there are some AMAZING flash sites out there) most of the sites I see are purely boring. They just... "flash". And that's not enough: they even have some crappy sounds, to complete the package. What's the use? Really? How is a "jingle" going to make me want to browse a Flash site? Or any site? Especially when the sound is loud and sudden. OH, MY GOD!

[taiarain]

Yeah, sometimes the simplest concepts seem to escape the people who most need to understand them.

Taia

[Melos]

I have tested in IE (which is what I use) and Firefox, but I know I have to test in Opera too.  What are the others that you should test in?

If some people can't view my site, I won't get any sales from them, will I?

[Corey Bryant]

BrowserCam is a good site to test a lot of browsers / operating systems at once.

[sweet_mayhem]

yes, I still see a lot of theese, especially flash sites.
for example: to view this site you need macromedia flash!
I mean: please! if they are up to make a flash site for the fun of it, why not also a pure html version to improve my user experience and not make me waste my time?

oh, more often than not, i proceed to my next search when i see that message on a page!! aaargh.. i wouldn't want to go through the hassle of downloading the latest version of this or that just to view an article.